The Sound of Art Inside a Prison

Gabe Rosales, UCI Criminology, Law and Society Ph.D. candidate, professional musician, and advocate – has a whole lot to tell us about bringing music to the carceral setting, particularly at Richard J Donovan State Prison. We hear about the remarkable yields, when a system chooses rehabilitation over punitive measures, a fertile continuation of the reforms discussed with UCI professor Keramet Reiter on AAL 10/3/23. Meet Gabe in his own words “I have toured on a private plane over Europe. I have done drugs in a room by myself for days. I have cleaned toilets and been pepper sprayed in jail during the worse race riots in OC jail history. I have meditated in silence 16 hours a day for weeks in the mountains of California. I have been cornered on the streets of Los Angeles by thousands of riot police with the Occupy LA movement. I have marched with the American Indian Movement to the Jumping Bull house for the first official Leonard Peltier day in South Dakota. I have been lucky enough to see my writing published. I have had the honor of working with the BEST musicians on the planet. The meaning of life is to give life meaning, so use your time wisely. I am just getting started.” Useful places to visit include: and

Music credits: Chimora, “Africano Americano,” Sounds of Africa – album; Kioea, “Lion’s Mane,” Stand Tall – album.

Crashing Carceral Walls in California

Returning to the show is UCI Professor Keramet Reiter, Professor with appointments at UCI’s Dept. of Criminology, Law, and Society and UCI’s Law School; and founding director of “Lifted,” a prison education program in the UC system. Her acclaimed writings include her book: 23/7; Pelican Bay Prison and the Rise of Long-Term Solitary Confinement. She brings insight into solitary confinement reform in CA, and the intersection of that with her other projects in the carceral system: the BA degree program in the UC system, & other education programs. Details about this program are available at: On future programming AAL will resume discussion of the bail reform and how the system affects individuals and communities, as time did not allow this coverage.

Music credits: Chimora, “Africano Americano,” Sounds of Africa – album; and Jaimie Branch, “theme 001,” FLY or DIE LIVE – album.

“Covid in Custody” Premier at UCI AND Civic Notes from the Host

UCI professor Keramet Reiter, and UCI director Jane Page, and theater director Gavin Cameron-Webb, (minute 5:21- 45:10) talk about their collaboration that patrons can take in this weekend. The play entitled: “Covid in Custody,” is a docu-drama written by Jane and Gavin chronicling the establishment of an online archive of first hand stories of those held in California’s prisons during the COVID Pandemic. The show at UCI’s Little Theater is now postponed, please take note when listening to this interview. This podcast summary will be updated once the production has been rescheduled. Tickets, which are free, must be reserved at the following link: More information about the archives set up by Keramet, upon which the play is based, is available at: Before this interview are comments about the candidate/incumbent OC Assessor Claude Parrish who was not available for the originally scheduled interview. After this interview are pointers about the OC Primary June 7, 2022.

Music credits: Chimora, “African Americano,” Sounds of Africa- album; and Aaron Goldberg, “Poinciana,” At the Edge of the World – album.

In-Prison UC Education Is Coming And “Pan-Damn It!”

In the first segment, Keramet Reiter returns to the show to talk about UCI’s launching the first in-prison BA completion program in the UC system. Professor Reiter, at both UCI’s Dept. of Criminology, Law, and Society and UCI’s Law School, with 20 years of experience in teaching in prisons, explains how many of California’s institutions are positioned to pull off this program with huge dividends for the individual and the community.

In the second segment (min 30:57), emblazoned on the Ask A Leader marquis, is Kyung Hyun Kim’s fresh as can be, play for this moment, Pan-Damn-It! UCI professor of Humanities and screenwriter Kyung Hyun Kim; and co-directors Jane Page, UCI director and professor at UCI Claire Trevor School of the Arts, and Gavin Cameron-Webb independent director – talk about Pan-Damn-It!, Kim’s original screenplay to be performed as a Live Zoom play reading on 11/15, 4-5:30 pm PT. Information on the play and how to get your free tickets is available at: :

Music credits: “Symphonie Pacifique;”  Walt Wagner Trio, “Trajectory,” Facade – album; and Illum Sphere, “Thousand Yard Stare,” Glass – album.