Local activist, artist, and retired higher education administrator Pauline Merry, and Oakland attorney and writer Adam Smyer return to the show – this time on the same program, for a dialogue on the arc of progress in the lives of Black Americans. http://www.kuci.org/podcastfiles/984/MerrySmyerShow2-28-23.mp3

This bonus segment covers their shared craft of writing. http://www.kuci.org/podcastfiles/984/MerrySmyer2-28-23Pod2.mp3

Music credits: Chimora, “Africano Americano,” Sounds of Africa – album; Corcoran Holt, “14th Street Bounce,” The Mecca – album.