In these times, for those hungering for a bit more intellectual honesty and some nuance along the Muslim-Jewish divide, along the Whitebread-Other divide; we hear from two distinguished leaders in the LA metropolis. First is Dr. Ahmed Soboh, Chairman of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California. In the second segment (minute 30:22) is Aziza Hasan, executive director of NewGround, a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change, based in Los Angeles. Having lived lives of bridge building, in some unassuming and some very privileged settings, both individually make their best cases for crossing particular divides-goodness willing. The public has ample opportunity to visit and engage with these centers to practice something essential.